Big difference! I picked a Glock up once. A far as the P220 legion we have it in both calibers and over 30 other Sig’s. The pain!!! My overall impression of this gun is quite positive. A have hunted with the 10mm and the 9mm. And no, your +P+++++++++ 45ACP load isn’t as good as 220gr hard cast, no matter how much you think it is. Extraordinarily accurate, very reliable, and easy to handle and shoot, one of the P220’s cardinal … But despite the 10mm initial popularity when it was introduced, the .45 ACP hasn’t gone anywhere. Massad Ayoob confesses that the SIG P220 is his very favorite SIG pistol, and indeed, one of his all-time favorite handguns. That’s the assuming clown I’m use to. Barrel Length: 5.0″ The Sig P220 is a classic firearm in its own right Chambering it in the powerful 10mm Auto cartridge makes it a great carry pistol for the field or the street. I have the same setup, different red dot and holster. I have S&W M&P’s (6 for an exact number) that have way more rounds down the pipe than that that have never had a malfunction. Shop for Best Price Sig Sauer P220 Legion 10mm And Sig Sauer P238 Concealed Holster . I will admit I am a bit of a Sig Sauer fan boy. You are nothing but a FRAUD wanna’ be. The going rate online is just $1,199, though. The 10 is going to have greater penetration than a 45, that goes without saying. So I’ll just pick on his dumb comparison to the .460 Rowland. 16,853 Posts #2 • Aug 2, 2015. Pure ridiculousness. Finished in a proprietary Legion gray coating and featuring custom G-10 grips with a Legion medallion, the P220 Legion is improved in nearly every way. Personally, I don’t have much use for the 25 ACP or 32 S&W Long, but, they have their adherents. Like I said dedication you definitely have. I also recently purchased a Glock 20SF 10mm because I enjoy shooting the 10mm as well. I’ve heard a lot of older and or weaker folks seem to like it. 37401. I live in Alaska and do not carry this in the woods as our bears are large and easily annoyed when you scare her cubs. I also clearly have nothing against the 10mm either. This one is no different. “Buffalo Bore’s and Underwood’s advertised muzzle energy for hard cast loads: Is gun I want,absolutely love shooting my buddies 220 in 45 acp but the 10 should be even better. Paul Harrell did a video on 10mm vs .40 S&W some time back. I really hope you step up your game though. 7 of 9 Gun Review: Sig Sauer’s P220 Match Elite 10mm Handgun When comparing the P220 Match Elite 10mm to the .45 ACP version, … Glocks I’ve owned in the past, same thing. You really need to stop torturing yourself. Soy boi. odd nonsense, followed by an abrupt finish just when i thought the review was getting started. It has an adjustable Match Target Rear Sight and a … I have the P220 Legion in 45 SAO. You judge the movie itself. but i want a 10mm. This is one solid gun. 10mm – 703 ft lb. I’ll take the Glock 10 MM Long Slide any day.. Finished in a proprietary LEGION gray coating and featuring custom G-10 grips with a Legion medallion, the P220 Legion is improved in nearly every way. You jerks never stop preaching about just how “PERFECT” your shitty piece of plastic is when in reality you can’t afford a Sig. When it comes right down to it, I just don’t see that much of a point to it. The 10mm puts the 45 acp to shame in both velocity and energy and does it with only slightly more recoil. The gun shot well off the bench. I’ve loaded a lot of Blue Dot and Unique through the years…H110 not so much. I’ve owned several 1911’s over the years but I alway end up selling or trading them. I currently own one Glock compared to all the other makes of firearms I own. A number of the brands of 10 mm he tested weren’t significantly more powerful than .40, and definitely a far cry from the “200 grains at 1200 FPS” Norma loads. The one the shooter can best hit his or her target. It provides an extra-strength deterrent to the countless idiots out there that create a need for us to apply for concealed carry permits. The big P220 Legion was easy to keep on target due to its bulk. Underwood’s offering for .45 Super has almost the same energy as 10mm, but with a higher TKO, making it as good or better for bear defense, where you want a slow, heavy bullet, not a fast, light bullet. I don’t care a wit about what this guy like’s or doesn’t like. SIG’s P220 Legion Full-Size is available in three flavors: the .45 ACP seen here, a 10mm with a longer slide and barrel, and a single action only (SAO) .45 ACP.. MSRP on the standard .45 and on the SAO .45 is $1,413. The P220 LEGION is an enhanced version of the gun that started it all for modern day SIG. I could go on but I’m sure you understand. Do you UNDERSTAND that? Be the first to review this product. The 10mm is one of those rounds that is either liked or it’s not. In fact, I plan on using this gun as my back up side arm on an upcoming hog hunt loaded with some Underwood Ammo 10mm Auto 140 Grain Xtreme Penetrator ammo. I have an IWB holster for it and it carrys comfortably. Hogue Inc. Put it back down and have NEVER even touched another one of those pieces of over rated plastic. A couple of years ago, SIG Sauer announced that the P220 chambered for 10mm would join the Legion family, and I was excited. The largest of bear and African game? This is definitely one that you’ll want to carry in some sort of chest rig or shoulder holster if you’ll be taking it out in the wild. The Glock is now up for sale at my local gun club. This is a shit article. “…many people don’t know how to shoot revolvers…” I don't know if it's as sweet as the P226 legion because I have not shot it. If it wasn’t for the FBI and its pansie agents that couldn’t handle full power 10mm, S&W hadn’t developed the compromise 40 S&W, and people wouldn’t follow law enforcement for gun and ammo selection the 10mm would most likely be more popular than it is today. I like ALL guns as well EXCEPT for Glocks. Sonny Crockett’s Bren Ten was actually converted to .45 ACP. A meat processor I know uses a 22, and the animal goes dark instantly. I also carried a Sig P220 for 13 years, over 15,000 rds down the barrel. “I think that so far this Fall in Montana that it’s bears – 5…hunters – 0.”. This joker’s rhapsodizing false statements are to numerous to even bother singling out and listing. Add to cart. Sig Sauer P220 5” Barrel Elite & Legion 10mm Auto quantity. I enjoy firing that gun quite a bit and it’s always a thrill.”, (Clicks the link) to : https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-329pd. My 10mm XDM holds 15 rounds. If I get lazy. It holds 15 rounds, is stainless steel, and has a three pound trigger..I also have an Trijicon MRO Green Dot sight on it. However, a “lighter load” doesn’t necessarily alleviate the capacity deficit over a full size double stack 9mm or my ability to shoot a 9mm better. Almost elk season up here…looking for a slow, tender cow for the freezer. I have never really been that big of a fan of 10mm. Discussion Starter • #1 • Oct 16, 2019. However with full power 10mm ammo from Underwood the energy level is more around just under to just over 700 ft lbs. You are correct about the Physics, however, careful reloading allows me to tailor the pressures and resultant recoil impulse (somewhat) to where I don’t find it excessive when shooting. The existence of that single offering is why I installed a Storm Lake 10mm conversion barrel and a Wolff 20lb recoil spring in my pawnshop Glock 21, which rides in my Kenai chest holster when I’m outdoors. Frankly, he is an amateur at best. Like most of the guns in the SIG line, the SIG SAUER P220 SAO Elite 10mm looks good, feels great in the hand and shoots well. The existence of that single offering is why I don’t own a 10mm.”, Buffalo Bore’s and Underwood’s advertised muzzle energy for hard cast loads: I shot 2 cylinders (10 rounds) max charge of H110 under a 240 gr XTP and I absolutely won’t do it again unless it means I’m not going to get eaten by doing it. I just figured pretty much all 10mm fans were just trolling. Interesting “civil” exchange. I am in the same boat. But you shouldn’t need a 45 to kill a cow. I’ve shot 10mm handgun (with off the shelf ammo) on a few outings with friends, no big deal. That’s not from a fear of recoil, as some of you may be thinking. The SIG SAUER P220 Legion Full-Size produced groups as small as 2.25″ with SIG’s 180gr Elite V-Crown JHP. $1,829.10. The P220 Legion produced excellent accuracy with SIG’s V-Crown JHP ammo. I now have a Glock 20SF in hand after waiting for it to be shipped. I has me a couple 44 mags but I likes me some 10mm too. I don’t believe that my original post denigrated the 10mm…only that I found it to be *meh* for my desired purpose. Ugly guns with a capital U. Sign up to get notified when this product is back in stock. I am content just to keep my old Ruger SP101. Over half of the content was you winging about how .460 Rowland is “sooo” much better than 10mm. i may add a few more calibers. (Josh Wayner for TTAG). cz doesn’t seem to want to make a 10mm or a single stack nine. Gun Review: Sig Sauer’s P220 Match Elite 10mm Handgun The P220 Match Elite’s slide has short cocking serrations at the front and complementary larger serrations at the rear. Well buckwheat Sig sells over 6 SIX times the number of guns than does the Gaston Junk manufacturer. If he doesn’t like Sig’s what the hell is he writing an article about Sigs for? The semiautomatic handguns today consider 250 rounds a break in to be considered carry worthy, not bragging rights. I really wanted a S&W 610. Uncle Zo publishes his own opinions for informational and entertainment purposes only. Don’t believe it? It’s interesting that the military uses both makes of firearms though. The first three models will all feature 5” barrels and steel frames with two being single action only, and one traditional double action/single action. Finished in a proprietary Legion gray coating and featuring custom G-10 grips with a LEGION medallion, the P220 LEGION is improved in nearly every way. Now featuring our highly sought after SAO Trigger and Manual Safety, the stainless-steel slide sports SIG … I’ve met others that had Napoleon syndrome too though. With the appropriate respect due to No One Special, I have to disagree with his comments on the .460 Rowland. I went with the Glock 10mm for one simple fact. We took the P320 XFIVE Legion and the P220 Legion 10mm out of the box, didn’t clean a thing on them. I came up with my load for the S&W 1006 I had using Hornady data and sneaking up on max load for that gun. You are a fraud who owns ONE Gaston Glunk piece of shit. Mine hasn’t even seen a box of factory yet. I don’t dislike the 10mm as a cartridge. Sig Sauer 10mm pistols hold 8-rounds and come in several variations, including Full Stainless, Camo, FDE, and Tactical models. “This is a single action only pistol giving it a lighter trigger pull, combined with the increased energy of the 10mm … First people don’t know how to shoot revolvers? I didn’t think it did either. Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt. 15+1 rounds of 10mm on tap is nothing to scoff at. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. However, the Sig Sauer P220 benefited from another 65 years of pistol evolution and got almost everything right from the start. The first is the perception that it’s substantially more powerful than other handgun calibers and the second is that it’s suitable for hunting any size game. This seems more like a smear article for the 10mm than a gun article. Wheel guns have their place, but 10mm is about the best you can get in a semi auto. You said, By. Third if working the slide on a semiautomatic is too much, S&W has come out with just the handgun. They are tough. Meh, tried it…sold it. And yes, Colonel, or sir to you. The the custom g10 grip scales are exceedingly comfortable. You regurgitating the same crap is getting old. I do know from loading my own lite 44 mag the same gun is controllable with 180 and 200 gr bullets between 1200-1300 fps. That includes the plastic sights on Glocks that I hate. Overall Length: 8.6″ We ran 250 rds out each gun in one range visit. The stainless-steel slide sports SIG SAUER Electro-Optics X-RAY high visibility … You saddle up that horse there high speed, not me. I own handguns that are substantially more powerful, and my favorite .44 Magnum is the Smith & Wesson Alaska Backpacker IV, which is a super-light revolver. Nobody in my area sells .460 Rowland, not even our great gunshop downtown which has been in business for over 50 years. It feels as heavy as a full-size revolver in the hand. Now a friend owns it and his wife really likes it. Beautiful gun, but shooting that one with hot loads will get your attention. that might be true, but all they’d have to do is pick one up to figure it out. For those of you who think it’s just another 1911, think again. 10mm is legendary, Sonny Crockett had one,………SONNY……….CROCKETT, I’ve heard tell stories up in Alaska the Kodiak bear just fall over when they see it, water buffalo, elephants, squirrels you name it oh that son of a bitch will kill it and kill it dead , twice, So 10 mm kills what 6.5 creedmoor can’t? While I would have preferred the Kryptek Highlander camo finish of the Hunter model, I didn’t want the single action only (SAO) operation. If you are old use the 9mm because you do not care anymore what your friends think and you know what your 10mm friends will never know. Well, it pretty much goes hand-in-hand with doing a review on a 10mm gun. 3. Learn how your comment data is processed. The classic P220 LEGION is now available in 10mm Single Action Only (SAO) with an external safety. SIG P220 Review. I am just more familiar with the double action / single action (DA/SA) operation found on other Sigs that I own (the P226 and P229). It does show you are dedicated to your own ignorance though. I would say that is an opinion held by more than just me. Weight: 40oz I’ve owned a Sig P229 40 S&W and a Sig P320 Compact 9mm. Single action was the way to go. I’m 5’10 and pushing 240 lbs and just turned 65. .460 Rowland simply is .45 acp with a lot more velocity, which gives you diminishing returns downrange in return for much more recoil. As far as the “whore” part. I really enjoyed my time with it. Whether you need a P220 10mm Legion for home defense, extra magazines for peace of mind, or the Elite Performance ammo to ensure your mags are loaded with the best, you’ll find it all for an affordable … Yes, the 10 mm has a better trajectory and a longer range, but don’t forget about the .45 Super. It’s not very good by adult standards but I’ll just consider the source. That’s the wonderful thing about anonymity, it makes other people assume things and makes them look like the ass that they are. Yup. Yeah I’m sure I’m whoring for Glock. Quite a bit of Power Pistol in the last couple of years for the .460 Rowland. Just a name that costs more. (Though, oddly enough, 9mm, 10mm, .38 Super and .22LR are other available calibers for both pistols). Given that you can’t beat physics. Ok high speed, any other conclusions you want jump to? Capacity: 8+1 (3  8-round magazines included) I’m hesitant to consider this gun for home defense as I worry about over penetration. It sure seems like there’s a bigger difference in recoil though. SIG Sauer offers the P220 in 10mm two different ways: The P220 Hunter, which is an SAO pistol clad in Kryptec camo finish and designed with hunters in mind; and the P220 Match Elite which is a reversed two-tone of stainless and Nitron finish. “don’t know how to shoot revolvers” WTH. So what you’re really saying is you really like to whore for Sig Sauer? Overall * * * *  Just one more gun to complete … As per forum suggestion I’m looking in to a 10mm p220. You keep being a good little earner and I’ll keep enjoying ALL of my guns not just the Glock. A buddy has the Smith 610…it is sweet. The existence of that single offering is why I don’t own a 10mm. Just like 3.5″ for turkey, you don’t think about recoil when you see what you’re hunting. I carry my 2 3/4″ model 69 Combat Magnum loaded with 44 spl from time to time. But t… An example of this is the .460 Rowland, an elongated .45 ACP. MSRP: $1943 ($1599 retail). Now go play with your dead cat. i have in .44mag a semiauto pistol, an sa revolver and a lever carbine. “There are many loads in .45 ACP that will do just fine for most uses outdoors. The 10mm does not hold a candle to good 460 Rowland ammo but the 10mm has enough velocity and energy to get the job done with less recoil. They are in fact no better than any other gun I’ve owned. Sig Sauer Offers Up Military Surplus M17 Pistols. Machine Guns Montana (Kalispell, MT) has a new one on the shelf for (I think)…$729’ish. I have the Ruger Alaskan, contemplated the .454 Casul but opted for the .44 because I didn’t want to stockpile ANOTHER caliber. It has become so desirable it can be hard to find a retailer that has one in stock. I don't shoot the HK as well as the P220. If true 10mm ammo is to be had you have to load it yourself. The weight and extra barrel length (5 inches in 10mm vs. 4.4 inches on the .45 model) and sight radius mean it is very easy to control, particularly in single action. I’ve never had sights fall off a gun including the many Glocks I’ve owned in the past. Personally I’d like to have a Winchester 45 auto mag but to my knowledge no gun manufacturer makes a gun for it anymore. It should be behind the head, not the front. — ABRAHAM LINCOLN. so i’ve been biding some time. This is most certainly very difficult for a POG to understand but there are a lot of folks that can’t stand Glocks and dislike Glock owners even more. He promises not to tell you about stuff that’s dumb. If there are gun whores it is you mutts that pray at the alter of Gaston Glunk. I bet you were a joy to have as a leader. But, I really like the Legion series. . The gun is heavy enough as it is. Kinda’ like me writing an article Gastons Junk Gun, or your mother. The word was that it would follow the release pattern of DA/SA first, then the single-action-only (SAO) would come later. Recoil wasn’t brutal, but you could definitely tell that you weren’t shooting .45 ACP. odd tone. You “used to won”…who cares. I didn’t shoot it as well as I shoot 9mm, but that is expected as there is quite a bit more of recoil management. کابل شبکه. Sig P220 Legion 10mm 5" Email to a Friend. If you are young buy the 10mm you will get a thrill out of the recoil and muzzle blast and you will impress your friends at the shooting range. But to be fair, the P220 was not my first choice for a 10mm Auto hand cannon. despite all the negative comment that some have on this gun i think it’s great Sad! Every cartridge has a purpose…some achieve their design goals better than others. The article was about the Sig P220 not about this idiots likes or dislikes. I have the RIA 10mm MS and love it. None of which have chosen to discontinue any recent addition. I know that this is needed to deal with 10mm ammunition, but it is something of a negative as it makes operation difficult. Newsflash – no one cares about .460 Rowland. Bringing my mother up was new, I’ll give you that. When I first got the 10mm fever, I wanted a Colt Delta Elite and looked for one for about a year. I load my 10mm ammo with a stout charge of Longshot or BlueDot powder under a 180gr or 200gr bullet. This is the reason for the resurgence of interest in the 10mm, primarily among handgun hunters who prefer to use a semi-automatic model rather than a revolver. Taken at face value the 10mm serves a purpose and does it quite well. I would personally like a lite factory 44 mag. I don’t usually like the circus but you’re a special Napoleon clown that I’m will laugh at. This is a semi-custom gun, so already has much of what you’d want. You don’t care for Sigs. See https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018751781?pid=497730. Roger Ebert said movies should be judged “generically,” meaning that you don’t judge the kind of movie, you don’t say “This is a horror movie and they stink so it’s no good,” because the reader already knows if he doesn’t like horror. Buffalo Bore makes a 255 grain hard cast +P load that is my go-to for outdoor use. Sig PERFECTION. The accuracy was quite good as you’d expect with that long sight radius. Pretty big though. I had to learn the hard way after my first cow. I’m retired too. SPECIFICATIONS: SIG SAUER P220 Legion 10mm, Caliber: 10mm Auto Most 10mm shooters these days have NO idea what the REAL Norma 10mm loads were like when the caliber was developed. For sure there are other cartridges. I suspect this gun will also at the center of some conversations with friends. You morons are completely incapable of accepting any opinion other than your own. You most definitely can’t understand that I’m sure. Forty-one years ago, the Swiss armed forces adopted a new service pistol to replace their agingand costly to makeP210s. Just tell me if this gun is a good 10mm. I would really like to have a old model 610 but with Smith reintroducing the model and the price of the older ones I just can’t bring myself to spend the money. Hell, I like all calibers, but if anything seems “unnecessary” to me it’s .40. Yep and many other guns to keep that one Glock company. I carry my FNX 45 with a Rowland conversion in the woods during spring / summer / fall hikes. “I don’t believe that my original post denigrated the 10mm…only that I found it to be *meh* for my desired purpose.”. No, not really. I’ve taken this gun out to the range one time so far and put fifty (50) rounds of Sig Sauer’s 180 grain Elite Ball ammo through it. I’m not on here or anywhere else trashing everything else except for one brand. Especially when they so desperately want to be right. If factory ammo is the only option look no further than Underwood or Buffalo Bore for full power 10mm. Pinterest. The TKO means it hits harder and makes a bigger hole (and besides, the energy is almost equal). So rest assured, you’re not in that boat alone. The stainless-steel slide sports SIG … You’ll throw the GG’s plastic toy away. You can’t resurrect that particular dead caliber. Yes, it’s heavy, but fun and accurate to shoot. Frankly, I’m sticking to my 9mm P229 for this purpose. Action: DA/SA with decocker 10 mm — 220 grains, 1200 fps, 703 ft lb, but only 15.09 TKO, For those who put their faith in foot-pounds of energy, I’ve got news for you: grizzly bears don’t read fps figures! This, of course, is due to the fact that the 10mm is a high energy cartridge, so the heavier springs actually serve to reduce recoil and muzzle flip. 10mm is just a fun round to shoot. Which ain’t cheap. I like 10 mm, I like .44s, I like .45s, etc., there’s room for everybody in my safe. 10mm – 703 ft lb”, But check out .45 Super, which can be fired in most .45 ACP pistols with just a change of springs. I’ll decide if I like 10mm. An old Game Warden once told me to remember DFWTB…Don’t F*** With The Bears…good advice (he carried an -06 or 870 with heavy, magnum slugs in the backcountry…no spray). You are the worst gun owners in America. What can’t the Creedmoor kill? Second the 10mm must be gaining traction since S&W, Springfield Armory, Ruger and Sig Sauer have all added at least one gun to the 10mm market. It is assuredly not. The steady, but limited, popularity of the 10mm today comes from two places. € 110.00. I was just pointing out that for the 10mm ammo selection is imperative. I’m sure I could group better from a bench. I must be getting old. Now the load I tend to shoot most is a modest charge of unique under a 180 gr XTP. I could have 4 RIA 10mm 1911’s for that price, no thanks. My RIA 1911 10mm does better for a carry weapon. Being quick on the bolt would be a must but it is possible. It’s large and heavy enough that it would be a difficult pistol to carry it concealed. 189 Posts . Ergonomics: * * * * Accurate too and I don’t mind the recoil. Facebook. I would carry it in the woods now during bow season. Look no further than the M&P 380EZ. The 4″ barrel model 69 gets the full power magnums. Customize This: * * * * (Josh Wayner for TTAG) Given its size and hefty 40 oz. Buffalo Bore makes a 255 grain hard cast +P load that is my go-to for outdoor use. You in particular exemplify why guys like me hate Glunks and Glunk owners. There is about a $400 difference between the P220 Hunter and the P220 Legion both offering the G10 grips. Having said all of that I’d say the 10mm’s popularity is growing and the market is ripe with new guns to prove it. Ha..Sig RULES GLOCK. I’m disappointed though. Product Description ; … In addition to some nice touches, such as X-RAY3 Day/Night sights and ambidextrous manual safety, the 10mm LEGION P220 has a few other notable accouterments. Which won’t happen if I harvest a doe. Same with guns. The fourth, and final entry into my Perfect Truck Pistol series gets high marks. Plus if you shoot either here you better be able to prove it had every intention of eating you. I also have a highly customized EAA Witness Match Elite with a 6 inch threaded barrel..I shoot it with a SilencerCo Hybrid 46 Suppessor. Accuracy: * * * * * While the P220 Legion isn’t radically different from its stock cousins, it’s a semi-custom gun with fit and finish that are impeccable. My recently crushed knuckles *twinged* when I saw that! No offense taken or intended. I enjoy the heck out of my Commander sized 10mm 1911 from RIA. Personally, I plan on using this gun for target shooting and as a back up side arm when I go hunting. On the other hand with the right bullet in an accurate rifle the Creedmoor could possibly save your ass if that was all you had. .45 ACP +P – 484 ft lb Aesthetics: * * * * * probably not! It’s a total joy to shoot, the extra weight of the gun makes it shoot like a heavy 9 +P or +P+ to me and I can stand and ring steel at 35 to 50 yards easily with it – 10″ and 12″. You must be a democrat as you, like them, hate it when somebody actually disagrees w/you. Let one of your boyfriends spank you it will probably make you feel better. Great choice. What does that have to do with anything? The double-action trigger pull is quite heavy, and you had better train if you plan on taking a shot with it at any distance beyond about five feet. I simply don’t see a need for it when there are other options out there that do what it does better. The P220 Legion 10mm pistol has become a ‘must-have’ among shooters. Have yet to take my first deer with a handgun, but hope to this season. weight means shooting the gun isn’t a terrible experience. And yes for the longest time thanks to reasons already stated the 10mm has had a true cult like following. I’m not such a snot that I can’t see there are good guns from more than just one manufacturer. meaning when I feel like I’m 100% with it at bow ranges. Trigger on this pistol is awesome! .45 Super – 255 grains, 1075 fps, 654 ft lb, 17.70 TKO I load 180’s up there in the bleachers and am developing 155 XTP loads now. Are you implying that Janet Reno isn’t helpful!? When I first got the 10mm fever, I wanted a Colt Delta Elite and looked for one for about a year. I think the heft in the P220 tames the recoil of the 10mm Auto quite well. Given its size and hefty 40 oz. I shoot quite a bit of 44 Spl and lite magnums that I load for the S&W model 69 2 3/4″ barrel. .40 S&W or full power 10mm not a problem…kinda like 38 Special and .357 Mag. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018751781?pid=497730, https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-329pd. The comparatively low sectional density makes the round less effective for the tradeoff in recoil, otherwise, the defunct 45 win mag and unpopular .50 AE would have been kings of the handgun world by now. There are others but those two are the easiest to find. I dig the X-ray sights, the grey finish, and the G10 grips feel fantastic. Aw, geeze! Junk. I bought it to shoot true 10mm loads. I am a retired Colonel USMC. On top of that, this guns larger height and length dimensions will probably make it harder to conceal. The signs are all over, for those who can read them. SIG always seems to do a good job with looks these days, but the Legion gray slide and frame finish with G10 grips are particularly attractive.
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